1 00:00:00,751 --> 00:00:03,629 In the criminal justice system, the people are represented 2 00:00:03,796 --> 00:00:06,382 by two separate yet equally important groups… 3 00:00:06,549 --> 00:00:08,259 The police who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,426 --> 00:00:10,970 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,137 --> 00:00:13,014 These are their stories. 6 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:19,437 Don't kill your baby! Abortion is a sin. 7 00:00:19,603 --> 00:00:22,606 Don't kill your baby! Abortion is a sin. 8 00:00:22,773 --> 00:00:24,608 Don't kill your baby! 9 00:00:24,775 --> 00:00:26,777 Abortion is a sin… 10 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:28,237 Do they ever get bored? 11 00:00:28,404 --> 00:00:29,905 The True Believers? 12 00:00:30,072 --> 00:00:31,157 Not on your life. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,619 Abortion is a sin! Don't kill your babies! 14 00:00:35,786 --> 00:00:43,127 Abortion is a sin! Don't kill your babies! 15 00:00:43,294 --> 00:00:46,756 Abortion is a sin! Don't kill your babies! 16 00:00:46,922 --> 00:00:50,676 Abortion is a sin! Don't kill your babies… 17 00:00:56,807 --> 00:01:00,311 Past 24 weeks? We can't help you. 18 00:01:00,478 --> 00:01:02,396 Well, I'm not sure. 19 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:03,731 Okay… 20 00:01:03,898 --> 00:01:06,025 fill this out and you can see the nurse. 21 00:01:07,318 --> 00:01:08,694 Women's Choices. 22 00:01:10,112 --> 00:01:12,448 God, not again. 23 00:01:12,907 --> 00:01:14,575 So my father says, 24 00:01:14,742 --> 00:01:17,161 "If you weren't a cop you would get a husband. 25 00:01:17,328 --> 00:01:19,038 Who told you to be a cop?" 26 00:01:19,205 --> 00:01:21,207 My mother says, "I told her to be a cop 27 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:24,376 so she wouldn't worry about getting a husband." 28 00:01:24,543 --> 00:01:26,378 You could always marry me. 29 00:01:27,963 --> 00:01:30,132 You're not what my father had in mind. 30 00:01:30,299 --> 00:01:32,885 29 Adam, respond to 312 West 19th 31 00:01:33,052 --> 00:01:35,721 Chelsea Women's Choices regarding bomb threat; advise. 32 00:01:35,888 --> 00:01:38,849 We are at that location and will advise further. 33 00:01:39,391 --> 00:01:41,143 Come on, let's go. 34 00:01:42,144 --> 00:01:43,729 Easy, easy, easy. 35 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:45,564 Don't panic. It will be all right. 36 00:01:45,731 --> 00:01:47,650 Take it easy. 37 00:01:47,817 --> 00:01:49,902 Out now! 38 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:51,570 That's everybody. 39 00:01:51,737 --> 00:01:53,114 Come on, let's go. 40 00:03:31,837 --> 00:03:34,006 Stay behind the barrier. 41 00:03:34,173 --> 00:03:37,176 I'm asking if you saw anybody carrying something… 42 00:03:37,343 --> 00:03:39,553 Knapsack, package, a large bag… 43 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Anything out of the ordinary. 44 00:03:44,141 --> 00:03:45,726 Yo! 45 00:03:47,061 --> 00:03:49,480 Good morning, Vietnam. What do we got? 46 00:03:49,647 --> 00:03:51,190 Your garden-variety lunatic 47 00:03:51,357 --> 00:03:53,025 blowing up a room with a lot of ladies in it. 48 00:03:53,192 --> 00:03:54,318 The bomb. 49 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:56,570 Your basic type. 50 00:03:57,988 --> 00:03:59,198 Fertilizer and diesel? 51 00:03:59,823 --> 00:04:01,533 You got it. Amateur hour. 52 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:04,662 The only thing I like more than a bomber is an amateur bomber. 53 00:04:04,828 --> 00:04:07,456 Timer? Quartz alarm clock. 54 00:04:07,957 --> 00:04:09,959 Straight out of "The Revolutionary Cookbook." 55 00:04:10,501 --> 00:04:12,920 If that's the main course, I can't wait to see dessert. 56 00:04:13,087 --> 00:04:16,090 Yeah, well, there won't be any dessert for this one. 57 00:04:17,049 --> 00:04:18,550 Student ID. 58 00:04:19,134 --> 00:04:22,263 - "University of Manhattan". - Sandra Turner. 59 00:04:22,429 --> 00:04:25,349 21-22, maybe. She was in the bathroom. 60 00:04:26,392 --> 00:04:27,601 Was she here for an abortion? 61 00:04:27,977 --> 00:04:29,561 Doesn't play that way. 62 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:32,898 She didn't sign in. Nobody saw her. 63 00:04:33,065 --> 00:04:34,692 It looks like she was the delivery girl, 64 00:04:34,858 --> 00:04:37,486 but she didn't get out quick enough. 65 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:40,489 Put her right through the wall. 66 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:42,658 We get calls all the time… 67 00:04:42,825 --> 00:04:44,952 False alarms, but still we get everybody out. 68 00:04:45,119 --> 00:04:46,745 Did you recognize the voice on the phone before? 69 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:49,915 She only said "bomb." How could I recognize her voice? 70 00:04:50,374 --> 00:04:52,167 What about the girl in the bathroom… Turner? 71 00:04:52,751 --> 00:04:53,502 Did she fill out a form? 72 00:04:56,088 --> 00:04:57,548 No way. I didn't see her. 73 00:04:58,382 --> 00:04:59,174 She wasn't a patient. 74 00:04:59,341 --> 00:05:01,593 They can't wait to talk to somebody. 75 00:05:02,219 --> 00:05:04,638 She must have carried the bomb in. 76 00:05:07,057 --> 00:05:09,059 What is wrong with these people? 77 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:11,437 Sooner or later, it had to happen. 78 00:05:12,896 --> 00:05:15,733 As long as the courts refuse to act against abortion, 79 00:05:15,899 --> 00:05:17,109 there are going to be individuals… 80 00:05:17,276 --> 00:05:18,569 Are you defending these nuts? 81 00:05:19,028 --> 00:05:21,447 Come on. This ain't lone justice. 82 00:05:21,613 --> 00:05:22,948 It's a conspiracy. They can't stop abortion 83 00:05:23,115 --> 00:05:25,576 through the courts, so they'll bomb a few clinics. 84 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:26,827 We don't know that. 85 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:28,871 We don't? I don't remember reading anything 86 00:05:29,038 --> 00:05:31,081 about a cellular phone in the bathroom. 87 00:05:31,248 --> 00:05:34,460 Somebody called in a warning. Two people make a conspiracy. 88 00:05:35,461 --> 00:05:36,962 Look, all I'm saying is 89 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:39,548 I understand why they're frustrated. 90 00:05:40,174 --> 00:05:42,217 Max, a girl is dead. 91 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:43,927 She was 22 years old. 92 00:05:44,094 --> 00:05:46,555 Tell them to write their congressman, not throw bombs. 93 00:05:46,722 --> 00:05:49,683 I'm only saying they believe in something and they're angry. 94 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,895 They're angry? So they send a girl in there with a bomb? 95 00:05:53,062 --> 00:05:56,357 In my book that is not frustration, that's murder. 96 00:06:01,403 --> 00:06:03,155 Eight bombings in the last seven months, 97 00:06:03,322 --> 00:06:04,323 all of them at night. 98 00:06:05,157 --> 00:06:06,742 None of them happened in the daytime. 99 00:06:07,201 --> 00:06:09,161 Nobody was hurt before either. 100 00:06:10,746 --> 00:06:13,248 We've got six active anti-abortion protest groups 101 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:15,667 with offices in Manhattan. 102 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:20,339 Let's see if the ME's got an ID, 103 00:06:20,506 --> 00:06:22,341 then we'll start on these. 104 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:26,136 Whatever she used did a real job on her. 105 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:27,971 Anybody come to ID her? 106 00:06:28,138 --> 00:06:29,848 - Nah. - No prints? 107 00:06:30,265 --> 00:06:32,101 Epithelial layers gone. 108 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:34,103 I could get better prints from charcoal. 109 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:36,021 You'll have a preliminary report tomorrow, 110 00:06:36,188 --> 00:06:39,400 but there's not much doubt about the COD. 111 00:06:45,989 --> 00:06:47,825 That's it? Cash… no wallet? 112 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,536 Just the university ID. 113 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:01,046 Nobody on this student number. 114 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:04,383 Try Turner, Sandra. 115 00:07:06,552 --> 00:07:09,513 We haven't had six digit IDs in two years. 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,724 Turner, Samuel… 117 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:14,726 Turner, Sheila… 118 00:07:14,893 --> 00:07:17,438 No Turner, Sandra. 119 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:19,481 But this is the university's card? 120 00:07:20,858 --> 00:07:22,276 No, it isn't. 121 00:07:22,443 --> 00:07:24,778 This picture is… glued on. 122 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:27,197 It's a fake. The real one's like a license, 123 00:07:27,364 --> 00:07:28,699 all one piece. 124 00:07:30,242 --> 00:07:32,202 Back to square one. 125 00:07:32,369 --> 00:07:34,746 Let's hit some of those anti-abortion groups. 126 00:07:35,747 --> 00:07:38,584 0 for three. Number four… "Women for Life," 127 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:40,836 headed by Rose Schwimmer. 128 00:07:43,922 --> 00:07:47,384 Our battle isn't about restoring Central Park, 129 00:07:47,551 --> 00:07:50,762 or a 15¢ increase in the subway fare, 130 00:07:50,929 --> 00:07:53,599 or separating cans and bottles from our trash. 131 00:07:53,765 --> 00:07:55,350 It's about human life. 132 00:07:55,517 --> 00:07:58,020 Sometimes people go out of bounds. 133 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:01,231 Do you ever go out of bounds? 134 00:08:01,773 --> 00:08:02,983 All the time. 135 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:04,234 That's why I'm here. 136 00:08:04,401 --> 00:08:05,819 You're here to break the law? 137 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:08,113 I'm here to stop the murder of babies. 138 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,282 Look, let's get this clear. 139 00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:13,327 Abortion is a right in this country! 140 00:08:15,078 --> 00:08:18,624 That clinic was performing a legal and medical procedure. 141 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:21,335 They weren't murdering anything. 142 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:22,920 Mrs. Schwimmer… 143 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:25,839 a girl is dead. 144 00:08:26,465 --> 00:08:28,550 The clinic's just a couple of minutes from here. 145 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,844 I'm horrified by what happened. 146 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,972 But you sympathize, don't you? 147 00:08:34,139 --> 00:08:36,850 I mean, with people who bomb abortion clinics. 148 00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:40,479 I don't condone violence, but i understand. 149 00:08:40,646 --> 00:08:42,773 Does a woman named Sandra Turner 150 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:44,608 belong to your group? 151 00:08:45,234 --> 00:08:47,653 Would hand me that folder there, please? 152 00:08:48,737 --> 00:08:51,240 We have over 2,000 active members. 153 00:08:51,406 --> 00:08:54,076 And a couple thousand more come to our vigils, 154 00:08:54,243 --> 00:08:56,119 and send contributions. 155 00:08:58,163 --> 00:09:00,165 No Sandra Turner. 156 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:03,168 Where were you when the bomb went off? 157 00:09:04,461 --> 00:09:05,796 Why? 158 00:09:05,963 --> 00:09:08,090 People from your group were picketing that day. 159 00:09:09,258 --> 00:09:11,426 Am I a suspect, Detective? 160 00:09:14,304 --> 00:09:17,266 Lazy Jane's around the corner having tea. 161 00:09:19,685 --> 00:09:22,020 I guess when you go against the system the way we do, 162 00:09:22,187 --> 00:09:23,480 you're guilty until proven innocent. 163 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:28,694 She comes every Wednesday… 164 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:30,070 Rose Schwimmer. 165 00:09:30,237 --> 00:09:32,155 She came in between 10:00 and 11:00. 166 00:09:32,322 --> 00:09:33,615 Are you sure of the time? 167 00:09:33,782 --> 00:09:35,742 Why do you think it's called Lazy Jane's? 168 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:37,452 I don't get in until 10:00. 169 00:09:37,619 --> 00:09:39,288 So what? She came right after you? 170 00:09:39,621 --> 00:09:41,290 10:15, 10:30. 171 00:09:41,456 --> 00:09:44,042 Her friend came in a couple of minutes later. 172 00:09:45,335 --> 00:09:46,420 The friend a regular, too? 173 00:09:46,587 --> 00:09:49,214 Semi… a couple times a month. 174 00:09:50,299 --> 00:09:51,425 You know the look… 175 00:09:51,592 --> 00:09:53,635 Raggedy Ann with a Bendel's charge card. 176 00:09:53,802 --> 00:09:55,971 She's a real pro-shopper. 177 00:09:56,138 --> 00:09:58,473 She had this big box with her. 178 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,726 A box? She put right on the table. 179 00:10:00,892 --> 00:10:02,144 Can you believe that? 180 00:10:02,311 --> 00:10:05,147 I mean, it was the size of a toaster oven. 181 00:10:05,314 --> 00:10:07,149 I put it on the chair. 182 00:10:07,316 --> 00:10:09,610 This isn't a dinner. 183 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,114 Watch… five years they'll legalize drugs. 184 00:10:14,865 --> 00:10:16,116 Pfft! Maybe, maybe not. 185 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:17,909 It's a great country, Max. 186 00:10:18,076 --> 00:10:19,911 You can do what you want, when you want, 187 00:10:20,078 --> 00:10:21,038 with who you want. 188 00:10:21,204 --> 00:10:23,165 Which means if a woman wants an abortion, 189 00:10:23,332 --> 00:10:24,499 she can get one. 190 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:26,126 Just because she was careless enough 191 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:27,961 to get knocked up in the first place? 192 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,589 What are you against, abortions or sex? 193 00:10:30,756 --> 00:10:32,424 Abortions. I like sex. 194 00:10:32,758 --> 00:10:36,470 So a 17-year-old should louse up her whole life by having a kid? 195 00:10:36,637 --> 00:10:39,598 17-year-olds shouldn't be doing what makes babies. 196 00:10:39,765 --> 00:10:41,141 And crooks shouldn't have guns. 197 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:43,769 Get real. What they should be is more careful. 198 00:10:43,935 --> 00:10:46,772 Kids aren't careful, that's why they're kids. 199 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,320 Mrs. Schwimmer didn't mention that she had tea 200 00:10:53,487 --> 00:10:55,739 with Ms. Toaster Oven. 201 00:10:57,032 --> 00:10:59,910 I get it. Now every pro-life protestor is a bomber. 202 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:03,163 You agree with them, don't you? 203 00:11:04,373 --> 00:11:05,874 Okay, Don Juan… 204 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:08,585 any of your girlfriends ever have an abortion? 205 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:12,506 One ex-girlfriend, who's now married with two kids… 206 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:14,591 Neither of them mine. 207 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:25,227 I really don't have time for this. 208 00:11:25,394 --> 00:11:28,730 I hate to bother you, but it is weird that no one saw her. 209 00:11:29,147 --> 00:11:31,233 Really? If I was planting a bomb, 210 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,818 I'd sure try to be invisible. 211 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:37,197 That's all the cards. There's no Sandra Turner. 212 00:11:37,364 --> 00:11:39,866 I told you… she didn't sign in. 213 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:42,744 How much does an abortion cost? 214 00:11:43,245 --> 00:11:44,830 $300. 215 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:49,710 $300… the price of a cheap mob hit. 216 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:52,462 Hey, Max, look at that. 217 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:54,923 Yo! How many did they take away? 218 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:57,551 12, 15. 219 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:00,429 Let's go to the property clerk's office, 220 00:12:00,595 --> 00:12:02,889 and pick up the dead girl's keys. 221 00:12:08,854 --> 00:12:10,605 We got two right here. 222 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:14,401 Ooh! Whoa! 223 00:12:15,402 --> 00:12:17,362 How sweet it is. 224 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:20,031 I could get used to driving this. 225 00:12:20,198 --> 00:12:22,784 On your salary you couldn't afford the repairs. 226 00:12:22,951 --> 00:12:26,413 On my salary i couldn't even afford the insurance. 227 00:12:27,164 --> 00:12:28,540 Bingo! 228 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:32,544 "Chelsea Women's Choices Center." 229 00:12:33,712 --> 00:12:35,464 Let's get the Crime Scene Unit down here. 230 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:37,966 Maybe we'll get lucky and pull some prints. 231 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:39,676 Yeah. 232 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:42,429 Come on. Don't give yourself an ulcer. 233 00:12:47,142 --> 00:12:48,852 422. 234 00:13:02,991 --> 00:13:05,076 - Mr. Donovan? - Yes. 235 00:13:05,243 --> 00:13:07,496 Sergeant Greevey, Detective Logan. 236 00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:15,587 When she didn't come home last night 237 00:13:16,046 --> 00:13:18,048 we tried to file a missing person report. 238 00:13:18,215 --> 00:13:20,258 They wouldn't take it. 239 00:13:20,425 --> 00:13:22,677 They said we had to wait two days. 240 00:13:47,786 --> 00:13:48,870 Our Father who art in heaven, 241 00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:50,288 hallowed be Thy name. 242 00:13:50,455 --> 00:13:52,207 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done 243 00:13:52,374 --> 00:13:54,459 on earth as it is heaven. 244 00:13:54,626 --> 00:13:55,877 Give us this day our daily bread, 245 00:13:56,044 --> 00:13:59,047 and forgive us, we forgive those who trespass against us. 246 00:14:05,554 --> 00:14:08,515 You daughter, did she belong to a right-to-life group? 247 00:14:09,641 --> 00:14:10,976 The thing about Mary… 248 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:13,603 She loves kids. 249 00:14:14,855 --> 00:14:16,147 That's why she teaches. 250 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:19,693 Did Mary ever mention Women for Life? 251 00:14:20,277 --> 00:14:22,445 She was sympathetic to their work, ideals. 252 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:26,825 We all are. Did anyone call the school and tell them that… 253 00:14:26,992 --> 00:14:29,828 Mary wouldn't be in today? It's okay, Barbara. 254 00:14:30,579 --> 00:14:33,832 Couldn't Mary have, without your knowledge… 255 00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:35,625 Mary didn't keep secrets from us. 256 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:42,382 We know how hard it is, 257 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,801 but we'd like to look at Mary's room. 258 00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,096 Mary has a thing about privacy. 259 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:49,306 Barbara… 260 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:53,226 it doesn't matter if they go into her room now. 261 00:14:57,939 --> 00:14:59,691 "The Lives of The Saints." 262 00:15:00,901 --> 00:15:02,360 22 years old. 263 00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:05,405 Who sends a kid to deliver a bomb? 264 00:15:08,283 --> 00:15:09,993 Maybe it was her own idea. 265 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,995 Yeah? 266 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:13,997 Who taught her how to make one? 267 00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:16,041 Whoever it was, 268 00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:18,126 they should have taught her about timers. 269 00:15:18,293 --> 00:15:21,004 The mother seems to be taking it pretty hard. 270 00:15:21,171 --> 00:15:23,006 It's gonna take awhile. 271 00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:25,926 What? To realize that her daughter is dead? 272 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:27,844 To realize she didn't die with her. 273 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:32,349 The father doesn't seem to be having that problem. 274 00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:33,934 That's because… 275 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,936 he didn't lose a daughter, 276 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,104 he gained a martyr. 277 00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:42,108 Hey. 278 00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:46,488 Looks like the brother owns a lumber company. 279 00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:50,700 Lumber… construction. 280 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:53,536 Construction… explosives. 281 00:15:54,913 --> 00:15:57,457 Anything you can tell us about Mary's friends, 282 00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:59,167 teachers she was close to? 283 00:16:01,086 --> 00:16:02,963 My father… 284 00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:06,508 poured himself a cup of coffee this morning. 285 00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:10,303 Put in milk, sugar, walked over to the sink, 286 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,305 poured it down the drain. 287 00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,808 He didn't know what the hell he was doing. 288 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:17,894 I got on the West Side Highway on my way here… 289 00:16:18,061 --> 00:16:19,896 I forgot to get off. 290 00:16:20,063 --> 00:16:22,691 Went the whole way to 96th Street. 291 00:16:24,359 --> 00:16:26,695 Just like that, I had a sister 292 00:16:26,861 --> 00:16:28,697 and now I don't. 293 00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:31,825 Is there only the two of you? 294 00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:35,036 Mary always said she would have a big family. 295 00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:38,498 What about these anti-abortion groups? 296 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,417 She loved kids. 297 00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:42,877 Did she belong to any organized groups? 298 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:45,505 Mr. Donovan, 299 00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:47,132 bombing is a felony. 300 00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:49,259 Fine! I think Mary's paid for her crime in full, 301 00:16:49,426 --> 00:16:50,552 don't you, Detective? 302 00:16:50,719 --> 00:16:53,304 We don't happen to think she was in this alone. 303 00:16:53,471 --> 00:16:54,681 Don't you want the people 304 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:57,517 who helped to kill your sister to pay, too? 305 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,271 If she was the member of a group, 306 00:17:01,438 --> 00:17:03,565 she never mentioned it to me. 307 00:17:05,275 --> 00:17:07,944 They might know more at school… Saint Aloysius. 308 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:12,949 Some people take a long time to grow up. 309 00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:14,242 Have a seat. 310 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:21,124 They still believe in hearts and flowers, 311 00:17:21,291 --> 00:17:23,334 and Mom never looks at another guy… 312 00:17:23,501 --> 00:17:25,795 Dad doesn't cheat on his income tax. 313 00:17:25,962 --> 00:17:29,674 For 22, Mary was… young. 314 00:17:29,841 --> 00:17:33,011 Young enough to let somebody talk her into throwing a bomb? 315 00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:36,723 Gentlemen, a parochial school like this… 316 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:39,059 It's another century. 317 00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:40,894 Mary was a sweet kid. 318 00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:43,438 She believed the whole world was parochial school, 319 00:17:43,605 --> 00:17:45,315 that all the problems could be solved 320 00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:47,776 with pure thoughts and a rosary. 321 00:17:47,942 --> 00:17:49,277 Did, uh… 322 00:17:49,444 --> 00:17:52,113 did you know she wasn't gonna be here yesterday? 323 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,114 Day off. 324 00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,116 Regular day off? 325 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,328 No. Do you know how hard it is 326 00:17:58,495 --> 00:17:59,621 to get good teachers these days? 327 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,332 They ask for a day off, they get it. 328 00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:04,834 Did she happen to tell you why? 329 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:07,295 Well, she had been upset. 330 00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:09,923 I figured it was her boyfriend, Patrick Dunn. 331 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:12,550 He teaches here, eighth grade Latin. 332 00:18:12,717 --> 00:18:15,178 Last week they had an argument in the hallway 333 00:18:15,345 --> 00:18:16,221 in front of the kids. 334 00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:20,058 I had to tell them "This is not appropriate behavior". 335 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,685 She shouldn't have been there. 336 00:18:23,478 --> 00:18:24,813 It's crazy. 337 00:18:24,979 --> 00:18:26,689 So, Patrick… 338 00:18:27,649 --> 00:18:30,401 this fight you had last week, what was that all about? 339 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:32,946 Some article in "The Times." 340 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:36,116 Connecticut's abortion law… 341 00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:38,201 Mary hated abortion. 342 00:18:38,368 --> 00:18:39,619 Hated it. 343 00:18:39,786 --> 00:18:40,703 You? 344 00:18:41,704 --> 00:18:43,039 Why? 345 00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,044 Personally, I think it's a sin, 346 00:18:48,211 --> 00:18:50,380 and I think it's immoral. 347 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:52,215 But I live in the real world. 348 00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:57,303 Did she ever mention a woman named Rose Schwimmer? 349 00:18:58,346 --> 00:19:00,014 Women for Life. 350 00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:02,600 Everyone knows who she is. 351 00:19:03,852 --> 00:19:06,813 If you're asking whether I carry false identification, Detective, 352 00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:08,481 the answer is no. 353 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:10,024 I'm proud of what I do. 354 00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:11,568 Anybody in your group have any? 355 00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:14,362 - Please. - Thank you. 356 00:19:16,447 --> 00:19:18,324 This movement attracts 357 00:19:18,491 --> 00:19:20,493 deeply committed individuals. 358 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:22,912 They get arrested. 359 00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:26,916 Some carry false identification and jump bail. 360 00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:29,043 And Mary Donovan? 361 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:31,754 Obviously, deeply committed. 362 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:34,007 But you didn't even know her. 363 00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:36,509 No, I didn't. 364 00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:39,554 But what I do know is Mary Donovan, 365 00:19:39,721 --> 00:19:44,225 whoever she was, sacrificed herself to save the unborn. 366 00:19:44,392 --> 00:19:46,561 Hundreds of them. 367 00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:48,688 I don't approve of her methods, 368 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:50,899 but I applaud her results. 369 00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:53,359 The day of the bombing when you had brunch, 370 00:19:53,526 --> 00:19:56,487 you didn't mention someone else being there… 371 00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:59,908 who happened to be carrying a large package. 372 00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:04,954 This morning I had breakfast with my sister. 373 00:20:05,121 --> 00:20:06,915 She carried an umbrella. 374 00:20:07,081 --> 00:20:08,124 I didn't tell you that either. 375 00:20:08,291 --> 00:20:11,294 We're just trying to do our job here. 376 00:20:11,461 --> 00:20:13,922 We have to verify alibis. 377 00:20:14,088 --> 00:20:16,299 I had brunch with an associate, 378 00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,301 Celeste McClure. 379 00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:22,472 Um, this Ms. McClure, 380 00:20:22,639 --> 00:20:24,015 you know where we can find her? 381 00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:26,017 Today? 382 00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:27,685 Probably at the community garden, 383 00:20:27,852 --> 00:20:29,479 near the stables on 89th Street. 384 00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:32,565 Just came from the printer. 385 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:35,235 Great, isn't it? 386 00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:39,530 It's wonderful. 387 00:20:40,531 --> 00:20:42,242 Depends on what you're selling. 388 00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:46,621 You're mistaken, Detective. 389 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,748 I didn't know Mary Donovan. 390 00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,959 But I wish I had. 391 00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:53,795 What she did makes me proud. 392 00:20:53,962 --> 00:20:56,005 Throwing a bomb? 393 00:20:56,631 --> 00:20:58,675 Innocent people could have been killed. 394 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,760 In that building 395 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,554 before Mary Donovan threw that bomb 396 00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:06,683 unborn babies were being killed every day. 397 00:21:06,849 --> 00:21:10,061 At Lazy Jane's, when you had brunch with Rose Schwimmer, 398 00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,854 what was in the box you had? 399 00:21:12,021 --> 00:21:13,940 Leaflets… 400 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,566 for protestors. 401 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:18,653 I'm trying to save lives. You're supposed to save lives. 402 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:19,529 We're investigating… 403 00:21:19,696 --> 00:21:22,699 A woman who gave her life in the only cause that counts! 404 00:21:22,865 --> 00:21:25,368 - Nobody's… - You wear a wedding ring. 405 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,037 Do you have children? 406 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:32,041 Would you want your daughter or your wife 407 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:33,793 to have an abortion? 408 00:21:34,752 --> 00:21:35,962 No. 409 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,923 But I wouldn't want them tossing bombs either. 410 00:21:41,884 --> 00:21:43,970 If you don't have any more questions, 411 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:46,139 I have work to do. 412 00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:55,565 Hmm, ammonium nitrate. 413 00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:59,027 Now, all she needs is the diesel fuel. 414 00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:02,572 Hey, you know, that's a good question she asked about your daughter. 415 00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:04,407 Suppose some boyfriend knocked her up? 416 00:22:04,574 --> 00:22:07,785 Look! We are not investigating my daughter, 417 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,580 my sex life with my wife, or my opinions on contraception. 418 00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:13,458 We are investigating the bombing of an abortion clinic. 419 00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:16,127 Let's just stick to the job, all right? 420 00:22:20,423 --> 00:22:22,842 Peterson's 121 nitrate. 421 00:22:23,509 --> 00:22:24,677 Where did you get that? 422 00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:27,430 What, I don't look like I have a green thumb to you? 423 00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,015 You must be one hell of a gardener. 424 00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:31,392 Do you grow palm trees in your backyard? 425 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:32,977 This stuff is for tropical plants. 426 00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:34,103 New York? 427 00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:36,105 A big item in Hawaii. 428 00:22:43,071 --> 00:22:45,114 Quite a record Mrs. Schwimmer's got here. 429 00:22:45,948 --> 00:22:49,077 Trespassing, disturbing the peace… 430 00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:51,245 harassment. 431 00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:54,165 For such a non-violent person 432 00:22:54,332 --> 00:22:55,500 she sure does get around. 433 00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:59,295 I've seen armed robbers who've got shorter rap sheets than this. 434 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:02,924 McClure's got nothing but a dismissed trespass. 435 00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:06,302 It's a big step from there to armed robbery. 436 00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,930 Yeah, well, Donovan's completely clean. 437 00:23:09,097 --> 00:23:10,139 She doesn't even have a traffic ticket. 438 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:12,517 But she was willing to go all the way up to arson and murder 439 00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:14,435 even with Mr. Clean for her boyfriend. 440 00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:18,564 The methods are wrong, but they're trying to prevent murder. 441 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,024 Spare me the rhetoric. 442 00:23:20,191 --> 00:23:22,235 I don't consider abortion murder. 443 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,570 If a woman wants one, that's her right to choose… 444 00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:28,783 Not yours, not mine and certainly not Ms. Rose Schwimmer. 445 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:30,284 I don't care what you believe, 446 00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:34,455 trying to prevent abortions by bombing goes way too far. 447 00:23:34,622 --> 00:23:36,582 I don't even know how you can sit here and defend it. 448 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,668 You and I both know they didn't mean to hurt anybody! 449 00:23:38,835 --> 00:23:41,087 No, I don't know that, okay?! 450 00:23:41,254 --> 00:23:43,548 Only an idiot thinks bombs don't hurt people. 451 00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:44,882 Come on, tell me more! 452 00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:46,884 Lab report just came in. 453 00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:48,761 Fertilizer's a match on the bomb 454 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,680 and they got a bunch of good latent prints on the bag… 455 00:23:50,847 --> 00:23:52,348 All the same woman. 456 00:23:52,515 --> 00:23:56,018 And they're a match for the parcel on the bomb fragment. 457 00:23:56,477 --> 00:23:59,063 If you two could manage not to kill each other 458 00:23:59,230 --> 00:24:02,316 maybe you could pick up McClure and see if her prints match. 459 00:24:11,993 --> 00:24:13,744 We're not saying it's a slam dunk. 460 00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:16,956 Slam dunk? A bag of fertilizer and a couple of prints? 461 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,374 Right now, I'd have a hard time 462 00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:20,251 of convicting Celeste McClure of bad gardening. 463 00:24:20,418 --> 00:24:22,503 I'm trying to make this work beyond just an indictment. 464 00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:24,088 You don't like it? Don't file. 465 00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:25,673 That's just fine with me. 466 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,885 Are you in favor of people planting bombs, Sergeant? 467 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:30,470 Careful, Counselor. 468 00:24:30,636 --> 00:24:33,473 All I'm saying is that these women are true believers. 469 00:24:33,639 --> 00:24:36,893 And so far, they've hurt no one but each other. 470 00:24:37,059 --> 00:24:39,103 Yeah. Talk about dumb luck. 471 00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:43,608 Gentlemen. 472 00:24:49,197 --> 00:24:51,657 McClure made the bomb. Donovan muled it. 473 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:52,992 Schwimmer ordered it. 474 00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:54,368 You want my advice? 475 00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:56,704 Offer McClure a plea. She'll take it. 476 00:24:56,871 --> 00:24:58,873 She wants to be a martyr. 477 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,377 Celeste McClure, the charges are 478 00:25:03,544 --> 00:25:05,254 conspiracy in the third degree, 479 00:25:05,421 --> 00:25:07,590 reckless endangerment in the second degree, 480 00:25:07,757 --> 00:25:10,009 arson in the second degree. 481 00:25:10,176 --> 00:25:12,178 How does the defendant plead on the first count? 482 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:13,971 Not guilty on all counts, Your Honor. 483 00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:16,766 We request release of the defendant on her own recognizance. 484 00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:19,060 Based upon what, Mr. Ballard? 485 00:25:19,227 --> 00:25:21,562 These are two serious felony charges here. 486 00:25:21,729 --> 00:25:24,273 Based on the fact that this is a political prosecution. 487 00:25:25,483 --> 00:25:27,652 You're not on trial yet, Counselor. 488 00:25:27,818 --> 00:25:29,237 Your Honor, if it please the court, 489 00:25:29,403 --> 00:25:32,156 Ms. McClure is a young woman with no previous criminal record 490 00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,116 and close ties to the community. 491 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:35,284 Mr. Stone? 492 00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:38,120 The People have no objection to minimum bail, Your Honor. 493 00:25:38,287 --> 00:25:41,707 Then bail is set at $10,000 cash or bond. 494 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:43,709 Short date. 495 00:25:46,295 --> 00:25:48,089 Thanks for the bail recommendation. 496 00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:49,298 Not at all, sir. 497 00:25:49,465 --> 00:25:50,967 Martyrs don't run. 498 00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:53,636 How can you allow yourself to be used like this? 499 00:25:53,803 --> 00:25:56,847 If you're gonna stick your finger in my eye, Mr. Ballard, 500 00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,349 clean your own nails first. 501 00:25:58,516 --> 00:26:00,643 It seems to me the only reason for this prosecution 502 00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:03,479 is to make the right-to-life movement look bad. 503 00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:04,855 That'll get you in the papers, 504 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:07,275 but it won't help your client and it's not true. 505 00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:09,485 McClure didn't plant that bomb, 506 00:26:09,652 --> 00:26:10,570 Mary Donovan did. 507 00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:11,862 McClure made the bomb. 508 00:26:12,029 --> 00:26:14,323 The best you can get, if you believe she's guilty… 509 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,492 Conspiracy six, arson four. 510 00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:18,828 Are you accusing me of filing inflated charges? 511 00:26:18,995 --> 00:26:21,330 I'm only saying you're gonna cost the state a lot of money 512 00:26:21,497 --> 00:26:23,332 merely to get her on probation. 513 00:26:23,499 --> 00:26:26,335 If probation will keep a bomb out of that woman's hands, it's worth the money. 514 00:26:26,502 --> 00:26:28,087 These people aren't criminals. 515 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:30,631 What are they, Mary Poppins, Mother Teresa? 516 00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:33,426 They are exercising their right of free speech. 517 00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,678 Throwing a bomb is a little non-verbal 518 00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:37,972 to qualify as speech, sir. 519 00:26:39,682 --> 00:26:41,976 Are you sure you don't want to recuse yourself? 520 00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:43,686 That's insulting. 521 00:26:43,853 --> 00:26:46,480 I'm personally against abortion means I can't prosecute a bomber? 522 00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:48,608 What I believe doesn't matter. 523 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,318 I represent the law. 524 00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:51,861 Amazing. 525 00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:53,696 I'm getting angry. 526 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:57,408 The most emotional issue 527 00:26:57,575 --> 00:27:00,536 that the law has dealt with since suffrage. 528 00:27:00,703 --> 00:27:03,080 Look at us. Three men… 529 00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:06,250 talking about what rights women should have 530 00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:07,835 over their own bodies. 531 00:27:08,002 --> 00:27:10,713 Doesn't that strike you as a little one-sided? 532 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,381 Adam, I have already told you 533 00:27:12,548 --> 00:27:16,385 my personal feelings have no impact on my ability to prosecute a criminal case. 534 00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:19,680 And I have never said that a woman does not have the right to choose. 535 00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:21,724 Fine. Wonderful. 536 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,853 Are you feeling shaky on that conspiracy charge? 537 00:27:27,438 --> 00:27:29,315 You better tie the bomb maker to the bomber 538 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:31,275 with a little more than what you got there. 539 00:27:31,901 --> 00:27:33,444 We prove McClure made the bomb, 540 00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:34,945 Donovan delivered it. 541 00:27:35,112 --> 00:27:36,280 What about Schwimmer? 542 00:27:36,447 --> 00:27:37,448 That's flimsy. 543 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:41,035 And it's risky. We tie her into the picture, it doesn't work… 544 00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:43,704 I wouldn't go even for an indictment with what we got now. 545 00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:47,333 - But? - It is a conspiracy, and I want to make it stick! 546 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,293 Forensics ever send over a print report? 547 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:50,753 Finally. There's another set of prints 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,547 along with Mary Donovan's on that counterfeit ID card. 549 00:27:53,964 --> 00:27:55,216 We don't figure out who they belong to, 550 00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:57,843 Ballard will say someone else was in league with Mary. 551 00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:00,179 Get a print work-up on everybody who knew her. 552 00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:01,764 You argue with Schiff a lot on this. 553 00:28:01,931 --> 00:28:04,684 - Yeah. Do you agree with him? - That's not an issue for me. 554 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:06,852 I'm not for abortion, I'm for birth control. 555 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:09,188 - I got your fertilizer. - Make me happy. 556 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:11,607 McClure bought one bag from the same supplier 557 00:28:11,774 --> 00:28:13,693 who sells to the community garden. 558 00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:16,195 - Ordered it herself. - She didn't happen to sign…? 559 00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:19,573 You just made me very happy. 560 00:28:20,616 --> 00:28:22,743 The only deal we're interested in 561 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:25,162 is you drop everything. Don't even go to the grand jury. 562 00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:27,832 Put your emotions in your briefcase for a couple of minutes. 563 00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:30,334 This case is about emotion. 564 00:28:30,501 --> 00:28:33,045 I hope you know your law better than that, Mr. Ballard. 565 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:34,547 I know juries are swayed by it. 566 00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:36,924 It's your gamble, Mr. Ballard. 567 00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:41,721 Ms. McClure, you and Mary Donovan bombed a clinic. 568 00:28:41,887 --> 00:28:44,515 Mary Donovan is dead and you're not. 569 00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:57,445 She's a nice, young lady. She made a mistake. 570 00:28:57,611 --> 00:29:00,865 I hope you're not going to let her take the fall all by herself. 571 00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:03,492 All she has to do is name who ordered it. 572 00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:07,163 It doesn't matter what happens to me. 573 00:29:07,705 --> 00:29:09,248 The babies matter. 574 00:29:09,415 --> 00:29:12,585 Arson in the second degree is a class "B" felony. 575 00:29:12,752 --> 00:29:16,172 I assume Mr. Ballard told you the sentence if you're convicted? 576 00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:17,465 Six years in jail. 577 00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:20,050 Six years in prison, Ms. McClure. 578 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:24,597 May we leave now, Mr. Ballard? 579 00:29:35,858 --> 00:29:37,485 23 years old. 580 00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:40,404 She can't even imagine what six years of hard time is like. 581 00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:42,573 Somebody's using her. 582 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:43,908 Schwimmer? 583 00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:46,786 An hour ago, I didn't know, 584 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,370 but now, even money. 585 00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,873 Still, it usually doesn't work this way. 586 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,626 Usually the criminal doesn't want to go to jail. 587 00:29:53,793 --> 00:29:54,752 McClure does. 588 00:29:54,919 --> 00:29:57,546 She'll become a martyr. She'll never give up on Schwimmer. 589 00:29:57,713 --> 00:29:59,465 She won't give anybody. 590 00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,802 Except herself. It's about morality for her, not legal compromise. 591 00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:04,804 So why don't we turn this thing around? 592 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,514 Let's try a reverse. 593 00:30:07,181 --> 00:30:10,100 I'm not part of any conspiracy, Mr. Robinette. 594 00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:12,102 You understand, Ms. Schwimmer, 595 00:30:12,269 --> 00:30:15,105 we're going to request the maximum sentence for Celeste McClure? 596 00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:17,650 You might ask your attorney what that means. 597 00:30:17,817 --> 00:30:19,777 First you have to get a conviction… 598 00:30:20,277 --> 00:30:21,695 With very thin evidence. 599 00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:24,281 Evidence we think a jury will find convincing. 600 00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:26,784 Celeste McClure will go to prison 601 00:30:27,535 --> 00:30:28,994 for a long time. 602 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:32,289 People in this state would never forget her. 603 00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:35,626 Fine. Make her a martyr. 604 00:30:36,418 --> 00:30:38,838 But Celeste McClure is a young kid. 605 00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:41,674 Are you going to let her rot behind bars? 606 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:46,220 Rose, don't say anything until we've talked. 607 00:30:47,096 --> 00:30:48,848 This meeting is over. 608 00:30:52,393 --> 00:30:54,228 You never heard their names mentioned? 609 00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:57,022 Schwimmer or McClure? 610 00:30:57,189 --> 00:30:58,899 Never. 611 00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:01,819 Anything you remember about the day of the bombing? 612 00:31:01,986 --> 00:31:04,822 Anything you've thought about since you talked with the police? 613 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:08,617 Mary said she was taking the day off… 614 00:31:08,784 --> 00:31:09,869 Shopping. 615 00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:14,456 Patrick, her boyfriend, he came to drive her to school. 616 00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:18,127 They had an argument outside. 617 00:31:18,544 --> 00:31:20,296 Couples have arguments. 618 00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:22,298 It was serious enough, Jeffrey, 619 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:23,883 for Kevin to try to break it up. 620 00:31:25,134 --> 00:31:27,887 Your son here that early in the morning a lot? 621 00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:29,513 He stops by occasionally. 622 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,265 Not that often. 623 00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:33,267 What was the argument about? 624 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:35,686 Something Patrick had with him. 625 00:31:35,853 --> 00:31:37,396 Nothing. 626 00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,732 - An envelope. - Nothing? 627 00:31:39,899 --> 00:31:41,901 So why did we hear them yelling? 628 00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,613 Our daughter did what she did 629 00:31:45,988 --> 00:31:48,198 out of her own conscience. 630 00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:50,492 We can live with that. 631 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:52,369 You can live with that, Jeffrey! 632 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,122 A martyr will never be able to tell me 633 00:31:55,289 --> 00:31:58,042 what a wonderful day she had at school yesterday. 634 00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:00,210 A martyr will never have a wedding. 635 00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:02,546 A martyr will never have children. 636 00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:10,679 I wanted to go to Barbados. 637 00:32:10,846 --> 00:32:13,265 I brought her a brochure. 638 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:15,434 I thought it would convince her. 639 00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:18,062 That's what was in the envelope. 640 00:32:18,228 --> 00:32:20,606 - That's all it was about? - Her parents… 641 00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:24,443 She felt it would look bad 642 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:27,112 if we went together not married. 643 00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:31,492 She said I was being insensitive to their feelings. 644 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,413 I had it all planned. 645 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:38,916 A romantic place… 646 00:32:40,084 --> 00:32:41,919 It's stupid. 647 00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:44,713 I guess I felt I needed the right setting. 648 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:48,467 I was going to ask her to marry me. 649 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:55,599 It wasn't that big a fight. 650 00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:57,351 So why did you get involved? 651 00:32:57,518 --> 00:32:59,144 I went out to talk to them. 652 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,813 Your mother heard you yelling. 653 00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:03,399 Patrick said your sister was upset. 654 00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:05,067 There was no fight. 655 00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:07,361 You're lying, Kevin! What are you gonna do? 656 00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:09,321 You want to charge me with the bombing of the clinic? 657 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:12,825 You can count on it, if I find you're covering up a crime. 658 00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:17,997 I don't know anything about the bombing. 659 00:33:24,086 --> 00:33:25,754 We'll call you if we need you. 660 00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:30,342 The Donovan ID? The other fingerprints? 661 00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,428 Got a match? Just came in from Washington. 662 00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:34,013 He'd been in the army. 663 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:36,223 - Who? - The boyfriend… 664 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,267 Patrick Dunn. 665 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,980 By themselves, the fingerprints aren't proof. 666 00:33:43,147 --> 00:33:45,607 She could have shown him the card… 667 00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:48,736 without telling him she was gonna use it to plant a bomb. 668 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:50,404 We need something else. 669 00:33:50,571 --> 00:33:52,740 Yeah. The brother has a story, 670 00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:54,324 boyfriend another. 671 00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:58,871 What about if we arrest Patrick 672 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:00,831 as a co-conspirator? 673 00:34:00,998 --> 00:34:02,833 Based on the prints? 674 00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:05,711 I don't want him arraigned if you don't think he's guilty. 675 00:34:05,878 --> 00:34:08,130 I don't know if he's guilty, but let's arrest him anyway, 676 00:34:08,297 --> 00:34:10,507 not arraign him till tomorrow, put him in a room with Kevin… 677 00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:13,260 - And see what shakes loose. - Yeah. 678 00:34:13,427 --> 00:34:15,554 The charge is arson and conspiracy. 679 00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,723 I'm not involved in that bombing. 680 00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:19,850 You can call your lawyer in a few minutes. 681 00:34:22,352 --> 00:34:24,605 This is unbelievable. 682 00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:27,524 What's he doing here? 683 00:34:28,025 --> 00:34:29,276 Is he being arrested too? 684 00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:30,944 Arrested? Mary's false ID card. 685 00:34:31,111 --> 00:34:32,571 Patrick's fingerprints are on it. 686 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:34,948 Did you get it for her so she could do the bombing? 687 00:34:35,115 --> 00:34:36,867 Makes you co-conspirator. 688 00:34:38,077 --> 00:34:39,495 I'm not going to jail, Kevin. 689 00:34:40,287 --> 00:34:41,580 I can prove I wasn't involved. 690 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:42,748 Mary wasn't involved either. 691 00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:44,625 Shut up! Shut up! 692 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:45,459 Hey! 693 00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:55,219 All he wanted was for her to be a martyr 694 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:56,470 instead of a sinner. 695 00:34:57,638 --> 00:34:59,515 She didn't go there to bomb the clinic. 696 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:02,851 She was pregnant. 697 00:35:04,478 --> 00:35:06,522 She was there to have an abortion. 698 00:35:06,688 --> 00:35:09,441 She was there to kill our baby. 699 00:35:16,156 --> 00:35:17,699 She was ashamed. 700 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:19,910 She thought if her parents found out… 701 00:35:20,077 --> 00:35:22,412 You wanted to marry her. That would have solved everything. 702 00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:23,872 It doesn't matter. 703 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:26,708 The baby comes early, everybody knows. 704 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,878 So, under a false name she'd have an abortion. 705 00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:31,713 That morning 706 00:35:32,172 --> 00:35:34,299 I gave her the ID and the money 707 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,634 so that she could… 708 00:35:37,845 --> 00:35:40,722 I pleaded with her to at least let me take her. 709 00:35:41,098 --> 00:35:42,891 I pleaded. 710 00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:48,063 With arson you could be a martyr. 711 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:50,524 With conspiracy you could still be a martyr. 712 00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:54,528 But Ms. McClure, now… Now we are talking about murder. 713 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,116 I didn't kill anybody. 714 00:35:59,283 --> 00:36:01,451 Mary Donovan did not get hit by a car. 715 00:36:01,618 --> 00:36:03,370 Tell her, Mr. Ballard. 716 00:36:07,207 --> 00:36:10,294 It's not six years in jail anymore. 717 00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:12,087 You'll never get her for manslaughter. 718 00:36:12,254 --> 00:36:15,132 Manslaughter? We are now talking about murder in the second degree… 719 00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:16,884 Depraved indifference to human life. 720 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:17,926 You're out of your mind. 721 00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:20,429 15 years to life behind bars. 722 00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:22,723 I don't want to put you in prison, 723 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:24,892 but somebody killed Mary Donovan. 724 00:36:25,058 --> 00:36:27,936 An innocent woman died. That is murder. 725 00:36:28,103 --> 00:36:30,230 That makes you no better than the people you oppose. 726 00:36:30,397 --> 00:36:32,232 Counselor, she's a kid. 727 00:36:32,399 --> 00:36:33,984 You said so yourself. 728 00:36:36,737 --> 00:36:38,989 Mary Donovan was a kid, too. 729 00:36:39,156 --> 00:36:40,741 Ask her parents. 730 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:49,374 She pleads on all three counts outstanding. 731 00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:51,084 You recommend minimum sentences. 732 00:36:51,251 --> 00:36:53,754 She testifies against nobody. 733 00:36:53,921 --> 00:36:57,341 If this was Schwimmer's idea, she testifies against her. 734 00:36:57,507 --> 00:36:59,593 We drop down to conspiracy six, arson four. 735 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,095 She pleads to criminally negligent homicide. 736 00:37:02,262 --> 00:37:03,430 She does six months. 737 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:07,100 Celeste, do you understand? 738 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:12,147 If I thought anyone would get hurt, 739 00:37:12,314 --> 00:37:14,775 I wouldn't have given Rose the bomb. 740 00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:19,154 The charges here are conspiracy in the second degree, 741 00:37:19,321 --> 00:37:22,699 arson in the second degree, murder in the second degree. 742 00:37:22,866 --> 00:37:24,826 Does the defendant wish to enter a plea? 743 00:37:24,993 --> 00:37:26,245 Not guilty, Your Honor. 744 00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:29,164 If it pleases the court, we're requesting bail. 745 00:37:29,331 --> 00:37:30,415 Mr. Stone? 746 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,752 Ms. Schwimmer has been convicted of several misdemeanors, 747 00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:35,254 and has made every court appearance, 748 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,630 however, in our experience, 749 00:37:36,797 --> 00:37:39,174 activists accused of more serious crimes 750 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,260 have sometimes decided to work for their cause 751 00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:43,804 from behind the scenes… Far behind. 752 00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:45,931 Therefore, the people recommend 753 00:37:46,098 --> 00:37:47,516 the defendant be held without bail. 754 00:37:47,683 --> 00:37:51,270 Your Honor, there's no reason to believe the defendant is a flight risk. 755 00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:53,563 Mr. Stone, I'm inclined to agree with Mr. Malloy. 756 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,192 What applies generally may not apply specifically to this defendant. 757 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:58,652 I understand. 758 00:37:58,819 --> 00:38:00,654 But this is a homicide, Mr. Malloy, 759 00:38:00,821 --> 00:38:03,282 with two additional felony charges. 760 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:06,451 Bail is set at… 761 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,787 $300,000. 762 00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:13,333 Regardless of your personal feelings, 763 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,169 you are not being asked to decide a moral issue. 764 00:38:16,336 --> 00:38:18,964 You are being asked to decide a legal issue. 765 00:38:19,131 --> 00:38:21,300 The crime is the murder of a young woman 766 00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:23,385 by an exploding bomb. 767 00:38:23,552 --> 00:38:26,054 And that woman, Ms. Rose Schwimmer, 768 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,140 is accused of placing a bomb 769 00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:31,268 with depraved indifference to human life… 770 00:38:31,435 --> 00:38:33,937 Indifference to anyone it might hurt. 771 00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:39,192 You may hear the arguments that the ends justify the means, 772 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:41,987 that an illegal act is somehow justified 773 00:38:42,154 --> 00:38:43,363 by a moral cause. 774 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,241 If you're even tempted to agree with that argument, 775 00:38:46,408 --> 00:38:47,743 please remember, 776 00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:50,579 killing is not only against the law, 777 00:38:50,746 --> 00:38:52,706 it is also immoral. 778 00:38:53,332 --> 00:38:54,875 And if anyone suggests to you 779 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,419 that morality and law are somehow in conflict, 780 00:38:57,586 --> 00:38:59,463 I ask you to remember that. 781 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:02,966 Is fertilizer and diesel fuel 782 00:39:03,133 --> 00:39:04,885 a commonly known explosive? 783 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,471 They blow mountains apart with it. 784 00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,057 Did you find actual pieces of the bomb? 785 00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:11,808 That's correct. Fragments of it 786 00:39:11,975 --> 00:39:14,019 were coated with the fertilizer compound. 787 00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:16,938 Did you make a comparison between that compound 788 00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,566 and the fertilizer taken from the community garden? 789 00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:21,610 - I did. - What were the results? 790 00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:23,403 They were chemically identical. 791 00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:26,031 Thank you. No further questions, Your Honor. 792 00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:27,991 Mr. Oliver, 793 00:39:28,325 --> 00:39:30,452 is the chemical in the fertilizer in question 794 00:39:30,619 --> 00:39:33,580 available as a chemical other than in that particular fertilizer? 795 00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:37,834 Yes. Other manufacturers make the same formulation. 796 00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:40,712 And is it also available just as a chemical compound 797 00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:42,881 that has nothing to do with fertilizer? 798 00:39:43,799 --> 00:39:44,966 Yes. 799 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:49,054 So the nitrate in the bomb could have come from somewhere else? 800 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:51,515 It's remotely possible. One in a million. 801 00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:54,017 Thank you. No more questions. 802 00:39:54,643 --> 00:39:56,770 Demanding police protection for abortion clinics, 803 00:39:56,937 --> 00:39:59,272 an estimated 10,000 pro-choice demonstrators 804 00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:00,732 marched down 10th Avenue. 805 00:40:02,818 --> 00:40:04,528 It's only going to get worse. 806 00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:07,364 Luckily, that ain't my problem. 807 00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,284 We're willing to consider a plea. 808 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,078 Manslaughter two. 809 00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:15,872 Mary Donovan was the perfect martyr. 810 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,791 You should have left it that way. 811 00:40:17,958 --> 00:40:20,419 And you, hiding behind a dead woman? 812 00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,629 I don't think the jury will like that. 813 00:40:22,796 --> 00:40:25,966 Mary Donovan was ready to kill her baby. 814 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:28,510 Will the jury like that any better? 815 00:40:28,677 --> 00:40:31,138 Mary Donovan is not on trial here. 816 00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,223 She will be. 817 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,101 She conspired to commit murder. 818 00:40:38,562 --> 00:40:41,231 Are you admitting that Mary didn't plant the bomb? 819 00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:50,031 In this state, capital punishment is against the law. 820 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:54,369 Yet, you're ready to risk your own form of capital punishment 821 00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:56,788 against people you consider deserving of it? 822 00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,832 They do deserve it. 823 00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:01,376 This isn't getting us anywhere. 824 00:41:01,877 --> 00:41:03,128 Come on, Rose. 825 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,177 Ms. Schwimmer? 826 00:41:12,429 --> 00:41:14,848 I think you should reconsider. 827 00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:18,101 I don't make deals with the devil. 828 00:41:25,775 --> 00:41:26,818 Two and a half months ago, 829 00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:28,612 did Ms. McClure come into your store 830 00:41:28,778 --> 00:41:30,280 and place her usual order? 831 00:41:30,447 --> 00:41:31,656 Yes, she did. 832 00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:33,700 Did she add anything unusual to it? 833 00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:35,952 Objection. Characterization. 834 00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:37,245 Sustained. 835 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:40,290 Did Ms. McClure's purchases include 836 00:41:40,457 --> 00:41:42,918 anything she did not make on a regular basis? 837 00:41:43,084 --> 00:41:46,671 Yes. A 50-pound bag of fertilizer 838 00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:48,840 with a special nitrate formula. 839 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:50,634 Did that strike you as strange? 840 00:41:51,718 --> 00:41:54,221 It's used mostly for palm trees. 841 00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:56,598 I told her it would kill her plants. 842 00:41:56,765 --> 00:41:59,142 I had to special order it. 843 00:41:59,309 --> 00:42:01,186 On that day when Ms. McClure ordered the fertilizer, 844 00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:03,146 was anyone with her? 845 00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:04,397 Yes. 846 00:42:04,564 --> 00:42:06,775 Is that person in this courtroom? 847 00:42:06,942 --> 00:42:07,734 Yes. 848 00:42:07,901 --> 00:42:10,445 Would you point that person out for the jury? 849 00:42:11,863 --> 00:42:13,782 She's sitting right over there. 850 00:42:13,949 --> 00:42:15,408 You Honor, may the record show 851 00:42:15,575 --> 00:42:17,661 that she's pointing to the defendant? 852 00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:20,288 Let the record so indicate. 853 00:42:22,707 --> 00:42:24,209 Rose said… 854 00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:28,213 talking, marching… 855 00:42:28,838 --> 00:42:31,383 it wasn't stopping the abortions. 856 00:42:32,384 --> 00:42:34,052 She was right. 857 00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:38,056 Every day, more babies were being murdered. 858 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,849 Did Ms. Schwimmer talk about the bombings 859 00:42:40,016 --> 00:42:42,102 in front of the other members of Women for Life? 860 00:42:43,687 --> 00:42:45,772 She said they wouldn't understand. 861 00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:49,484 And… 862 00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:53,822 that if it was just the two of us, 863 00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:56,366 nobody would find out. 864 00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:58,743 When did you give Ms. Schwimmer the bomb? 865 00:43:00,161 --> 00:43:02,622 I met her for brunch that morning, 866 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:04,916 at Lazy Jane's 867 00:43:05,083 --> 00:43:06,710 on 7th Avenue. 868 00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:09,212 Tell the jury what happened then. 869 00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:12,382 Ms. McClure? 870 00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:16,636 Rose… 871 00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:19,347 said she would go out the back door. 872 00:43:20,181 --> 00:43:22,017 It's next to the ladies room. 873 00:43:23,977 --> 00:43:25,604 She said… 874 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:27,480 she could get down the alley 875 00:43:27,647 --> 00:43:30,734 and back within 10 minutes. 876 00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:34,404 She told me to wait for five minutes, 877 00:43:34,779 --> 00:43:36,781 and then call the clinic and warn them. 878 00:43:36,948 --> 00:43:38,658 Did you make the call? 879 00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:39,743 Yes. 880 00:43:39,909 --> 00:43:41,911 Your Honor, I would like to enter into evidence 881 00:43:42,078 --> 00:43:44,289 telephone company records showing calls 882 00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:46,166 made from the pay phone 883 00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:49,753 of the Lazy Jane Restaurant on the day of the bombing. 884 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,923 No further questions, Your Honor. 885 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,765 Is defense ready for its summation? 886 00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:04,142 Your Honor, at this time, 887 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:06,353 against advice of counsel, 888 00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,522 the defendant wishes to testify in her own behalf. 889 00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,191 Ms. Schwimmer, 890 00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:14,319 you realize you'll be subject to cross-examination? 891 00:44:14,486 --> 00:44:15,945 I do, Your Honor. 892 00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,781 I urge you to reconsider. 893 00:44:17,947 --> 00:44:20,116 Listen to advice of counsel. 894 00:44:20,659 --> 00:44:23,912 However, I won't prevent you from testifying. 895 00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:42,889 Do you swear to tell the truth, so help you God? 896 00:44:43,056 --> 00:44:45,141 I certainly do. 897 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,145 Ms. Schwimmer, 898 00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:52,232 did you conspire with Celeste McClure 899 00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:55,068 to bomb the Chelsea Women's Choice Center, 900 00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:57,445 as well as seven other abortion clinics? 901 00:44:57,612 --> 00:44:59,197 Yes, I did. 902 00:45:01,825 --> 00:45:04,494 Then you're guilty of the charges leveled against you? 903 00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:07,122 Not before God. 904 00:45:07,288 --> 00:45:09,416 Can you explain why you're innocent before God? 905 00:45:09,582 --> 00:45:13,253 Objection, this case is being judged on the temporal plane, Your Honor. 906 00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:14,045 Sustained. 907 00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:16,589 How dare you object, Mr. Stone? 908 00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:19,217 We've done our homework. You were baptized. 909 00:45:19,384 --> 00:45:22,595 - You go to communion, and you prosecute me?! - That's enough. 910 00:45:22,762 --> 00:45:25,557 All the abortions in that clinic are murder, and you know it. 911 00:45:25,724 --> 00:45:27,767 - Your Honor? - It must stop! 912 00:45:27,934 --> 00:45:30,019 Mary Donovan's death was tragic, 913 00:45:30,186 --> 00:45:34,315 But if it prevents one abortion, the scales are balanced. 914 00:45:34,482 --> 00:45:35,900 Abortion must end! 915 00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:38,194 - Ms. Schwimmer, that will be all! - Are we a nation 916 00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:41,448 who can tolerate the abortionist sticking his hand 917 00:45:41,614 --> 00:45:44,242 in a mother's womb and strangling God's creation? 918 00:45:44,409 --> 00:45:46,619 The court officer will remove Ms. Schwimmer! 919 00:45:46,786 --> 00:45:49,873 Your Honor, I have only one question to ask of the defendant. 920 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:51,332 Which is? 921 00:45:52,459 --> 00:45:55,628 If abortion is murder, no matter how you feel about Mary Donovan, 922 00:45:55,795 --> 00:45:58,173 aren't you guilty of the murder of her unborn child? 923 00:46:16,649 --> 00:46:18,693 On the first count in the indictment, 924 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,904 the charge of conspiracy in the second degree, 925 00:46:21,070 --> 00:46:22,197 how do you find? 926 00:46:22,822 --> 00:46:24,741 We find the defendant guilty. 927 00:46:26,743 --> 00:46:28,036 On the second count, 928 00:46:28,828 --> 00:46:31,122 the charge of arson in the second degree, 929 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:32,123 how do you find? 930 00:46:32,916 --> 00:46:34,626 We find the defendant guilty. 931 00:46:35,877 --> 00:46:38,630 The third count, murder in the second degree, 932 00:46:38,797 --> 00:46:42,759 - how do you find? - We find the defendant guilty. 933 00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:50,475 What do we say to people 934 00:46:50,642 --> 00:46:53,770 who know she committed a criminal act, but don't think she's a criminal? 935 00:46:53,937 --> 00:46:57,148 That's easy. A criminal is someone who commits a criminal act… 936 00:46:57,315 --> 00:46:57,982 For any reason. 937 00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:01,194 But up until Roe v. Wade, the abortionists were the criminals. 938 00:47:01,361 --> 00:47:03,738 If the law hadn't changed, there never would have been a bombing. 939 00:47:03,905 --> 00:47:06,241 If the law hadn't changed, I'd be a slave. 940 00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:08,243 You can't turn back the clock.